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June 25, 2007

Alliance Navy Base Becomes Furry Death Camp

Half ur base r belong 2 us
Mercz and /b/ form alliance to take over Alliance Navy's Emit Time base
/b/'s short lived Fursecution concentration camp

by Pixeleen Mistral, National Affairs desk & Ace Graveling, War Correspondent

Snapshot_007
Arbeit Macht Fur

June 20 was a bad day for the Alliance Navy of Second Life. Behind on land tier payments, they lost control of half their Emit Time sim base to forces aligned with another militia - the Merczateers. Even worse, a clan of /b/ griefers set up a furry concentration camp on the former AN base, and began masquerading as the AN.

AN's trouble began about 1:25 AM SLT June 20th when one quarter of the Emit Time sim - and half of the Alliance Navy base - was placed up for sale and was promptly bought by the "Ailiance Navy" - the first i appears as a capital letter in an attempt at deceiving the casual observer. Three members of the Ailiance Navy (or AiN) maybe familiar to Herald readers: IntLibber Brautigan of Brautigan & Tuck Holdings, Ethan Schuman of the Merczateers militia, and Tizzers Foxchase, who is associated with the /b/ and Woodbury University.

After a brief chat with last week with Tizzers Foxchace (who is now serving time with the banned), I spoke at length with Ethan Schuman about how his group was able to take over the Alliance Navy’s base and turn it into a parody of the AN. While Mr. Shuman was not pleased with all of the /b/’s actions, I learned that Mr. Shuman felt collaborating with the /b/tards was a small price to pay for the victory over the AN .

Catruday_001
Defending the world?

It may not be surprising that the Furry death camp only lasted a few days before the Linden game gods removed it and handed out a number of bans. The police blotter friday showed that the Lindens had been busy in Emit Time sim - though some might wonder at this, since Emit Time is on a private estate.

Furry_execution_area
Furry execution area located just past the ovens

Mr. Schuman whisked me up to a plywood platform in the stratosphere so that we could talk without being hit by the boxes of organic cornmeal the /b/tards were shooting while riding an iconic /b/ vehicle - the screaming longcat. Protip: turn your speakers off if there is any chance of a screaming longcat in the vicinity.

The_new_flag
AN's new nieghbors

Ethan Schuman: I was who found out about the fact that the Alliance Navy didn't actually own the lease on this half of their land, and who came up with the idea to buy it. Anyways, after I found out that the AN didn't own this half of their land, I talked to the guy who did. He's a good friend of mine.

Pixeleen Mistral: and?
Ethan Schuman: When the Alliance Navy lost their sim, it was because of the fact that they didn't have enough money to pay for it. He gave them money, and gave them this quarter of the sim. In return, he was not compensated, nor was he even thanked, and he was treated quite badly by them. When I talked to him, he was having financial troubles. That sort of treatment is typical on the part of AN. He was in need of cash, and I saw an opportunity to strike at AN through unconventional methods.

Pixeleen Mistral: well, going after their finances is really post-modern. so then what happened?
Ethan Schuman: So, I united a group of like minded individuals, including IntLibber Brautigan, Aryte Vesperia, and Anthony Lehane, and the four of us purchased the plot at full price for the remaining term of the lease. It is important to note that all of us paid from our personal funds, not group money.

An_2
AIliance or Alliance - which is doper?

Pixeleen Mistral: did you tell anyone, or do this quietly?
Ethan Schuman: We did it quietly, though IntLibber had the idea to start up another military group next door. The rest of us just wanted the chance to take the land plot and return all their stuff. Anthony and I particularly enjoyed it because of what was done to the Merczateers Kremlin oh so long ago

Pixeleen Mistral: so payback was sweet?
Ethan Schuman: I should note that IntLibber funded the majority of the buyout, the rest of us put in smaller amounts, with my own donation just a token amount.

Pixeleen Mistral: this is interesting - it took a loooong time to spring the trap
Ethan Schuman: Payback was delicious. The reaction of the Alliance Navy has ranged from name calling, threats of legal action, to flat out harassment. But then again, when you consider the absolutely despicable behavior of Admiral Harlequin Salome, who personally banned me from all AN land and spread untrue rumors that I was sexually harassing AN members simply because I KNIFED him...

Pixeleen Mistral: good lord
Ethan Schuman: ...their reactions have been par for the course. Their Marine Commander actually told me I could "Go die in a hole." Not very commendable behavior

Pixeleen Mistral: well, they are under a lot of stress now
Ethan Schuman: The bottom line is that we beat them, fair and square, in a field of battle they are not used to fighting on (the intellectual battlefield), and which they are poorly equipped to do so.

Mercz_004
/b/ looking for furries


Pixeleen Mistral: that is why I said this was really post-modern - its the cyber-war instead of the grunt war in the trenches
Ethan Schuman: A popular joke amongst those of us familiar with the AN is that it's only cheating if the AN's opponents think of it first.

Pixeleen Mistral: financial people can be warriors too, I guess
Ethan Schuman: In this case, I saw a weakness on their front, I gathered my troops, and I exploited it (while remaining well within LL terms of service and traditional rules of engagement), and we were victorious.

Pixeleen Mistral: so once you had the AN's land - you let the /b/ people loose on it?
Ethan Schuman: Though, I must add that I'm not personally happy with the presence of the Woodbury/PN/griefer crew down below us, though they are here at the whim of IntLibber, and as he paid for most of this...

Pixeleen Mistral: ok - so that is IntLibber's doing
Ethan Schuman: The original intent was supposedly to form a parody group and run around acting like idiots. I should rephrase. IntLibber took measures to try to make the new group a legitimate military faction. I don't think he anticipated the explosion of /b/tardery that has manifested itself. The only reason I remain in the group is because I have owner rights, and have the ability to reign them in if they get too far out of hand.

Pixeleen Mistral: how far is too far?
Ethan Schuman: Well, I won't go into specifics, but the Alliance Navy admiralty are culturally diverse in real life, and symbols of hatred such as swastikas are things I won't tolerate anywhere. There is a double standard here, as the Alliance Navy admiralty sanction acts such as slander, and once went as far as to crucify an effigy of Aryte Vesperia, who is a devout Christian IRL. However, even with those actions, I will not allow anything of similar sort to be employed.

Mercz_006
/b/ trooper

Kovirr Hesse: I remember that. . . lol. Don't forget the head on the pike.
Ethan Schuman: The Alliance Navy are masters of spin and deception, and if you speak with them, they will downplay or ignore the immoral and unethical actions they routinely stoop to in an effort to demoralize, bully, and break their opponents.

Pixeleen Mistral: ic
Ethan Schuman: Speak with anyone who has ever been a target of one of their campaigns of intimidation, and you will discover them for the treacherous snakes that they are.

Pixeleen Mistral: they certainly have enemies but you may have shown that they are not as powerful as some thought
Ethan Schuman: The AN is quite formidable on the battlefield, but if you take their guns away and make them fight with strategy, logistics, and intellect, their typical defense is to stick their fingers in their ears and scream until their faces turn red. Kind of like what they do when you defeat them in battlefield combat, but that's beside the point. This event really bothered them. It was to the point where Harlequin Salome decided to leave SL for a while, though he was back after only a few hours.

Fursecution_2
Ethan Schuman has a sweet feeling right now

Pixeleen Mistral: anything else you want the Herald readers to know?
Ethan Schuman: It is VITALLY important to note that our intent was not to unlease the hordes of... however you wish to classify the mess below us... onto the Alliance Navy, and that this is a private venture. We simply wanted to smack them in the face and go "OH YEAH!" in the Kool Aid man voice.

Pixeleen Mistral: well, I think you did that and there may be some collateral damage as well
Ethan Schuman: Some, which is unfortunate, I will admit.

Pixeleen Mistral: but that is really IntLibbers doing
Ethan Schuman: That little mess is his venture, though I’ll be heading down there to help clean it up later on. The Alliance Navy leadership are dishonest, cowardly, hypocritical, and they have no honor. Something like this has been a long time in the coming, and I'm personally quite honored to have been Karma's hammer.

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I told you intlibber was no good!

Proteus Hand waits eagerly for the first long winded AN comment.

Yea and now about about the AN side of the story? fucking hate SLH for this shit, they never cover both sides of a story at the same time.

LULZ I LOOK DAMN GOOD

Wow. This story has everything! Furries, death camps, broadly offensive behaviour, /b/tards, anarcho-capitalists, land swindles, tier beaters, communists, edu-sims, intellectual debates, primmy avatars, Lindens, bans, and of course a deadpan hardboiled virtual reporter! -- I mean, only the "ageplay" is missing!

It should be taught in journalism school about how to cover virtual worlds.

Bah, Mootykips, you loved it.

To add to Ethan's descriptions of AN crimes in the past, they recently launched a military attack on the combat sim of Badnarik from the basement of the World Trade Center memorial site, two sims away, apparently intentionally to offend the memories of those who died on 9/11.

They have attacked civillians in civillian sims many times in the past, launched attacks from civillian sims, and have also griefed the stock exchanges of SL.

Despite claiming to adhere to their self-authored and self-interpreted laws of war (which are strangely in absence these days), when I, the estate owner of Badnarik, Salamis, Nolan and Friedman, complained to Admiral Harlequin Salome about his troops offensive and rule-breaking behavior, I have repeatedly been told to "suck my ____". Conduct unbecoming an officer, to say the least.

The AN really are nothing more than griefers in uniform, and are a disgrace to those of us who have actually given service in uniform in RL to whatever nation we are citizens of, as well as to those who have died in uniform serving their nations and the cause of freedom in RL.

I don't like inviting the /b/tards in to parody the AN, and they certainly are unwilling to stay to script. But frankly, at this point, I see little qualitative difference between them and the AN. The AN tend to crash my sims more frequently than the /b/tards do anyways.

A few minor corrections: The purchase was a collaborative venture on the part of three major investors paying from personal cash and acting on their own accord. There was no official group affiliation (though groups opposed to the Alliance Navy were delighted to see it happen), even with the position of the investors mentioned. I myself have parted ways with the Merczateers, though still collaborate with them when we have mutual interests such as this.

Another major note I should make is that I did NOT sanction or condone the /b/tard behavior. I protested to IntLibber about the employment of the folks that were, however I have found a handful among the many to be diamonds in the rough, as it were.

(This comment posted with Proteus Hand's 10:53 comment the last visible, though I'm quite confident other posts have been made.)

Sorry, the first macro-comment isn't from your 'buddies' across the camp, but everyone's open to accusations.

Now, there are a number of points raised in this article that are, whilst still relatively well informed, are not entirely true. I'm positively disgusted, for one, that anyone should allow such fascist jerk-offs to even begin to use their land for demonstrations of neo-Nazism. You allied yourselves with the /b/tards, and yet you're the winner? What kind of victory were you aiming for?

I find it hilarious that you condemn the AN High Command of anti-social behaviour and then go to do something like this. "But I said I didn't agree with it" you say. Why, then, did you fund it? As you pointed out, you did yourself make a token donation towards the purchase of the land.

And why is IntLibber still on the grid? This is not the first time he's pulled a stunt like this, and I can assure you it won't be the last. Constant harassment is one thing, but anti-racial imagery? The Lindens seem so hesitant of banning creeps like this solely because of their Land-ownership. Of course, why would they ban anyone that is paying them hefty sums in Land Tier? Miscarriage of justice.

There were some interesting versions of Mr Kuhn's story (Oops, there's a name) brought to the front before he left. Of course, they may be utterly fantastical, but once he started making accusations of RL Blackmail things got a little frosty. True or not, this seems to be getting a little too serious on the Merczateers part.

I've been wondering why the Merczateers resort to such behaviour (yes, I am targetting this at them. After all, Ethan Schuman, IntLibber Brautigan, Anthony Lehane... anyone who denies their overall influence as a group is frankly delusional) for some time now. Why would a military Role-Play group who frequently laud themselves as 'the best' (at least, according to a recent speech written by one Proteus Hand) need to stoop to such tactics as intimidation, public ridicule and anti-social propaganda? For example, long have Admirals Harlequin Salome and Nanao Mahfouz been the butt of everyone's anti-AN commentary, but now it's just too easy to go ahead and say "They treated our guy badly" after they didn't whack him up a few ranks for volunteer work, á la Merczateers. Too many of the recent AN leavers have been wondering why they didn't get hefty promotions for their work, despite never having even been hinted at this course of action.

I am frankly shocked and saddened that a group would need to go so far to bite back at a group that caused them humiliation through simply being better at what they do. As I see it, the Merczateers are over-stepping their boundaries a little, and taking things far too seriously.

Again, you call this a victory?

To elaborate on my last comment, regarding PN and WU's involvement, intLibber has tried to get us on his good side for a long time. he wants us to attack Anshe Chung:

[20:24] IntLibber Brautigan: Now if you want to be really helpful, though I don't expect you to be, why does Anshe Chung give you free reign of her land?
[20:24] Alyx Stoklitsky: Dunno, never been there.
[20:25] IntLibber Brautigan: more lies, the last 5 bases were on Chung land
[20:25] Alyx Stoklitsky: Oh. Wouldn't know. I don't sit there staring at the land properties window all day.
[20:26] IntLibber Brautigan: ask your buddies who made the deal with her
[20:26] Alyx Stoklitsky: whenever the n***** feel like building a new FL, they just say "find some none-return land"
[20:26] IntLibber Brautigan: ask them how long their mole has been in Furnation
[20:27] Alyx Stoklitsky: deal? rofl. We assaulted her with flying penises and had her husband file lawsuits against youtube.
[20:27] Alyx Stoklitsky: I can't see her making deals with us.
[20:27] IntLibber Brautigan: Furnation's legal chief tried to do a deal with you guys too.
[20:27] Alyx Stoklitsky: Corsi Mousehold?
[20:27] IntLibber Brautigan: sure she does, cause she thinks like a chinese
[20:27] IntLibber Brautigan: chinese people pay off trouble
[20:27] IntLibber Brautigan: always have

He expects us to do his bidding by crashing his financial rivals, essentially using us a personal army. Also lol @ racism.

[21:31] Me: Still, atleast the meeting ended before PN could get there. They had 2 n***** on the way.
[21:31] IntLibber Brautigan: he he
[21:31] Me: We only got wind of it about 20 minutes ago.
[21:32] IntLibber Brautigan: too bad, Philip and Claudia really would have gotten pissed.
[21:32] Me: Yeah, Sim has build and script enabled.
[21:32] IntLibber Brautigan: might have actually done something for a change
[21:32] Me: We could have crashed it in a split second
[21:32] IntLibber Brautigan: electric sheep are notoriously lax on security
[21:32] IntLibber Brautigan: surprised you guys don't grief there more
[21:32] Me: sim is usually empty.
[21:34] IntLibber Brautigan: plenty of sheep sims that are buildable
[21:34] Me: O rly? Can't say they're even on our radar. Never heard of them to be honest.
[21:35] IntLibber Brautigan: theyre a really big estate company
[21:35] IntLibber Brautigan: do a lot of RL corporate deals
[21:35] IntLibber Brautigan: they manage the CBS sims for the show The L Word
[21:35] Me: That would make them your competitor then
[21:35] IntLibber Brautigan: not really
[21:35] IntLibber Brautigan: different markets
[21:35] Me: Still, you'd crack a smile if they suffered, wouldn't you? Tongue
[21:35] IntLibber Brautigan: nah
[21:35] IntLibber Brautigan: I'm just saying
[21:36] IntLibber Brautigan: you guys waste your time on little guys
[21:36] IntLibber Brautigan: if you want publicity, you should shoot for bigger targets
[21:36] Me: The little guys often cry the loudest - just to deaf ears.
[21:39] Me: Still, thanks for the info We do it for the lulz.

When he was rebuffed by PN (the whole failed cyberstalking, threatening with 'FBI involvement', and personal threats against me and N3X15 sort of turned us off to the whole idea), he turned to the more sympathetic WU - I suppose in an attempt to befriend them by using /b/ memes, all that stuff. This whole fur death camp thing is another example. Intlibber is engaging in shady business practices, reminds me of a old 1920s businessman trying to hire the mafia to take down his competitors. This is completely the reason why he's in on it.

Not surprising though - Corsi Mousehold, head of FurNation in SL has tried to "hire" us as well by attacking other furry estates and not FN, bribing us with land. Look at how that turned out though, seems their website mysteriously went down during Longcat Shield for a few days while their sims were eating lolcubes.

I've gone off-topic, however. If the court has no objections...

Idiotic crap non-sense never ends with SL military, doesn't it?

Who didn't see it coming that the first thing the PN guys would do is make some kind of furry related thing?

The whole thing is kinda funny, but it just goes to show how crazy serious SL militaries are getting, that the battles seem to be stepping out of the "let's just shoot each other with virtual guns" area to "lets really slander each other's real life, try to psychologically oust our opponents, insult them any chance we can get, jump on any chance to hurt them financially, and then maybe at some point between all this, we'll shoot each other with virtual guns."

I r unstoppable.

good going mate

WHO CARES?!?

Seriously though Ethan you seem alright when we talk on Ventrilo and such but you really need to get over whatever grudges you have with Harlequin, the fact that you went out of your way to do all this just because he said some things and banned you from some places, you should wise up.

Hey IntLibber Brautigan why is WSE set to damage?

Good times. >:3

Tizzers got blamed for most of it, lulz. They forget that I'm the fleet admiral, as in I'm the one responsible for the lulz that ensued.

and there was no ageplay missing, I pretended to be a 15 year-old anthropomorphic cat while screwing Tizzers. I found it to be very erotic, if I do say so myself.

I'd like to say, I've faced the AN in combat before, on all sides of battle. What they call skill, is truly childs play. They got what they deserved. I'm not saying I hate furries. My boyfriend is a furry. I'm just saying the AN suck, and I wish I was able to participate in this.

9Well, here's proof we all needed that nor the Mercs, nor the AN are really interrested in simulated combat for the fun of playing wargames.

Someone please ban all of them, they're obviously nothing more then griefers.

And Ethan is full of shit. He says he doesnt like the PN /b/tards, and yet they still do buisness?
Bullshit.

When are you children going to grow up? Or, go back to the teen grid where you all belong.

Harlequin freaked out.....hahahaha.....
and I can second the fact that Harlequin's sole intent is to make you feel like shit for being alive. Countless times has he harrassed me and my comrades via IM. We have a goldmine of logs. But ever since half of their camp got purchased Fairly. He's been claiming he is "Stressed" Not to mention the fact that since the recreation of Badnarik Alliance Navy have had a tough time assaulting us. The Alliance Navy have even gone to lengths such as banning members of High Command for no reason. I try to IM a member of AN HC, but they do not respond as to why I am banned from their sim. This will all end soon... Don't you worry.... >:P

Someone help me get this big picture here...

The AN forfeits their right on a plot of land. Another group buys the land and sets up a concentration camp for furries.

So, instead of condemning what we actually know is wrong - and for those who not know I shall add it's the fact that there is a concentration camp set up - the SLH merely points out that the fact LL removed items and handed out bans is somewhat strange for this is private land.

And not mentioning this at all anymore, it gives room for numerous unchecked facts, which apparently noone in the AN was asked to comment about.

"Don't let the facts stand in the way of a great story".

Jenny Witherspoon
Enomotarch - Sparta

>>"I pretended to be a 15 year-old anthropomorphic cat"

I certainly hope that delicious shota was under 10% hazim, or I'm kicking you out of the PN boat club

Yes Madrick, it will end soon, for they have offended the last person willing to pay their tier for them, he sold them out legitimately after being badly treated. Who will Harle go to now, when The Woofer (now known as Dorien) is three months behind on tier? Their Tethys base was also subject to some urban renewal lately. Eventually they'll be restricted to their quarter sim in Emit Time, the only question is whether they'll still have the 'other' AN as neighbors.....

Hahaha!

Granted, done in poor taste, but very creative!

I think I can safely say (at least from a grunt's point of view) it is about "just shooting one another with virtual guns." Afterall, that is about the only interaction I’ve had with the Alliance Navy. Again, though, that’s from the take of an enlisted man.

This is the first I've heard about this Furry Death Camp thing, granted, I do not spend a great deal of time on SL.

Seriously though fellas, aren't we taking this all a wee bit too seriously? I agree, poor taste, but sometimes the best satire and humor is done in poor taste.

Banning, over something that seems to have been confined to only one area? It’s not like these guys were putting up swastikas all over the grid. Anyone else feel the same way?

"Wow. This story has everything! Furries, death camps, broadly offensive behaviour, /b/tards, anarcho-capitalists, land swindles, tier beaters, communists, edu-sims, intellectual debates, primmy avatars, Lindens, bans, and of course a deadpan hardboiled virtual reporter! ...It should be taught in journalism school about how to cover virtual worlds."

Absolutely!

All interesting posts from the PN here, very interesting.. even when you say nothing, you tell me what I want to know.

so... bought out their land from under them.. let some group called /b/tards setup a death camp... get banned by LL.. majority of us call this griefing, LL should have banned you...

Why can't us furs make fun of ourselves? I lead the SN, and this anti-fur thing seems somewhat humorous. I have been subject to MANY anti-fur statements, which seem quite entertaining. Let's suck it up, and have a good time with the Anti-Furs.


Imperial Admiral Inuyasha Deere- Husky and CIC of The Navy of Southern Carolina

hahaahahahaha....
Mr intlibber you are a genius....
now, the mole in furnation:
Karlhockey Forte'
Owns: no land, squats.
On the squatted land: 2 modded AN talons and a talon landing pad.
Defeated: AM put a large AM flag up on her talon and rezzed a large anti AN flag: it reads to paedophile(AN)...
not sure about the furry deathcamp though....
I was a furry onec....

I had a long winded reply to the comments above, but I will simply say this:

While you may think the "Furry Death Camp" was offensive, it was an expression of an opinion regarding a lifestyle choice consciously made by individuals. While I wasn't there on Thursday or Friday before the Linden nuke hit and three of our people were suspended, that I probably wouldn't have been pleased by it. However, all of us have opinions on the various lifestyles and the way others enjoy their Second Life. Furries, Goreans, military groups, police groups, ageplayers, Dark RP (Toxia) players... those are just some of the categories. All of us have made a conscious choice on how we will enjoy our Second Life, and all of us have opinions, voiced or not, about the way others enjoy theirs. The "atrocity" that you all think merits massive bannings is simply the way a select few /b/tards chose to express their opinion, and while it may have been done in poor taste, it was still their opinion, that they had the right to express however they wished (within reason), on the land that we allowed them to do so.

On a personal note, the reason I made that token investment, is so I could have group owner powers and control on the land, in case anything SERIOUSLY offensive came up (which, in a few cases, it did, and it was promptly removed).

As for those of you who believe the instigators of this action should be banned, we acted completely within the Linden Lab terms of service, and had the sanctioning of the sim owner to purchase the lease.

With regards to AN's side of the story, I'd quite like to hear what they have to say. Of course, with so little to spin here, it's unlikely we'll see much of them, as the AN tends to stay away from damaging stories that they have little to no chance to manipulate into something positive.

I'd have to agree with Tharik as far as the bad taste of this satire. It sure was funny, though!

After numerous interactions with both the Mercz and the AN I can say that they both have the proverbial "chip" on their shoulders and questionable attitudes in general. The Mercz just seem to be able to execute it better!

I will say this goes to show that you're only a griefer if you're alone. If you have others on your side then you're an SL army!

39th

If theres one thing obvious, Linden labs does not support free speech and only listens to the unwashed masses.

Ethan:

Frankly, I couldn't care less if some twits build a "Furry Deathcamp" on their land. However, you can't say that "a couple of people" built an entire deathcamp, especially on another guy's land. This was an organized act with the group's approval and assistance. Not two goobers putting a few prims together and calling it a doghouse.

You don't like Furries? Don't put on a furry AV and keep out of Luskwood. Don't like the wargamers? The fantasy crowd? The Elves, trolls, goths, vampires, tinies or clogdancers? Don't go where they hang out and leave them alone. It's as simple as that. But consider yourself lucky that ALL that happened here was that the Lindens came down and told everyone to clean things up, probably because LL doesn't want to get the German Media or Authorities cross with it again. Since "the few /b/tards" enjoy crashing furry sims so often, it would have been poetic justice had they gotten the same treatment themselves.

Once again a good story ruined by bad reporting. So what's the latest? Is the camp still there? Who owns that plot? What are the plans for it? Where is the interview of the AN (which I generally don't like anyway) to get perspective on the situation?

Is Pixeleen really just Ethan's alt? It almost seems like it...

This is most definitely the doing of Voter 5 amirite?

Aww, poor Profoky... she can't seem to tie Lenin into this one. Maybe next time. ^^

"However, you can't say that "a couple of people" built an entire deathcamp, especially on another guy's land. This was an organized act with the group's approval and assistance. Not two goobers putting a few prims together and calling it a doghouse."

Actually shockwave...

It was EXACTLY that. Intlibber pretty much said, "Here, have some land! Go for it!" And I suggested the furry concentration camp idea. 95% of the builds you see there had my name on them. So no, it's wasn't the super organized conspiracy you make it out to be. We did it for the lulz.

Sure does

When will people ever learn. Never give the /b/tards/PN ANY kind of coverage. That's what they want. Ignore them and there will be no lulz to be had by them. The greatest weapon against these people is to ignore them completely.

Now watch all the typical *chan retorts follow this...

shockwave: Same to you. If you don't like being griefed by PNs, stay out of furry sims, because it's going to happen. :3

http://www.zwnews.com/issuefull.cfm?ArticleID=862

Perhaps this is why I find a death camp "broadly offensive" even if said camp is done against a virtual group it is a statement of hatred so intense that one side believes the other should not exist, and "deserves" to be eliminated. It also makes a mockery of the Holocaust, and more recent genocides in Rwanda, Sudan, Russia, Kosovo etc.

Economic Mip

WitnessX, I think people would be more prone to listen to you if you weren't a white nationalist...

of course it makes a mockery of the Holocaust, that's why it's hilarious.

Ah, WitnessX, The person who is such an authority on /b/tards, that he can forecast any of our actions. Sorry bub, not happening. It wouldn't matter if we got any coverage or not, we'd still do it.

As I say, it's not possible to group us all together, because we're not all the same. mootykips is some fag who loves Japanese everything, I bang on computers, and Nihilanth does... 14 year-old girls. Yet you must constantly run around preaching the stereotype that all /b/tards do nothing but spout memes all day long.

It's said that we're all 15 year-old idiots, yet we're able to crash sims and still go days without being banned. Doesn't this mean that Linden Labs can't best 15 year-olds on their own turf? What does that say about the way they're running things?

As for ignoring us completely, that wouldn't work either, and isn't going to happen anytime soon. SL is host to some of the biggest drama hounds in the world, and is full of furries, notorious for causing and chasing drama. The only way to make us stop would be to close down SL, period.

Also, I enjoy consuming fruit-filled pastries.

Ethan, are you sure you want to, as you did, publically approve of this deathcamp?

Griefing is one thing, but this goes WAY beyond bad taste. Want me to make you a nice Hitler suit to wear when you are walking around overseeing your afro toting nazi PN buddies?

It's time the LL showed some balls and kicked all the griefer groups out once and for all. Not like we don't know who they are, and it's not like they're just "Fun loving folk, not wanting to grief oh no! Only some of our members are griefers, we kick them out when we find out!"
Or similar bullshit they usually utter.
Don't even have the balls to take what's coming to them.

"It’s not like these guys were putting up swastikas all over the grid"

Obvious you haven't been around for very long.

>>The greatest weapon against these people is to ignore them completely.

This is true. Thankfully, the lulzcows who would benefit from this advice think we give a damn about the bone they want to pick with us and try to counter with a splash attack.

I can only imagine how awesome that must have been.

keep rolling, PN, keep rolling

Community Standards: Broadly Offensive Content or Conduct
Friday, June 22, 2007, in the region of Emit Time. Contributed to construction of offensively-themed build. - Suspended 3 Days
Community Standards: Broadly Offensive Content or Conduct
Friday, June 22, 2007, in the region of Emit Time. Constructed crude and intolerant structure. - Suspended 3 Days
Community Standards: Broadly Offensive Content or Conduct
Friday, June 22, 2007, in the region of Emit Time. Constructed offensively-themed buildings. - Suspended 3 Days
Community Standards: Intolerance
Friday, June 22, 2007, in the region of Emit Time. Intolerant and offensive textures. - Suspended 7 Days
Community Standards: Broadly Offensive Content or Conduct
Friday, June 22, 2007, in the region of Emit Time. Crude and intolerant imagery. - Warning Issued.
Community Standards: Intolerance
Friday, June 22, 2007, in the region of Emit Time. Intolerant imagery. - Suspended 3 Days

^^ re-creating nazi like death camp...

"I did NOT sanction or condone the /b/tard behavior." but I didn't have the balls to remove it?

Yes. Robert Mugabe's regime is the logical outcome of bored nerds building a comedy skit set online. Mugabe is probably online at this very moment, plotting his next attempt at opening a furry death camp.

I thought it was a little strange originally that LL went after an anti-furry build, but after seeing some of the pictures and descriptions, I'd say it's much more likely they didn't give a shit about the anti-furry aspects and were removing it because of the strong holocaust and Nazi connotations, like Economic Mip said. If there's anything that LL has always harbored a zero tolerance policy too, it's Nazi groups, Nazi symbolism, and Nazi imagery.

You know, this who scene has given me great insight into what Second Life is like. It has really caught my attention. Due to the lack of media coverage this game gets, I thought for sure it was just another generic MMO, but now I see it can be anything you want it to!

So now I may be convinced to actually purchase second life. BTW, if you're wondering, I found this website through an old Penny Arcade news post from 2003.

>> "When are you children going to grow up? Or, go back to the teen grid where you all belong."

Nox I take that as an insult...

And "haha" at AN since they don't fight fair just like TG's New rome, AN probably is illegally on TG and that's how Darckk keep's his land...

Everyone associated with this idiocy should be ashamed of themselves, including the supposed referee Ethan Schuman. He claims the AL is "dishonest, cowardly, hypocritical, and they have no honor"... I don't know if that's true or not, but from what I've seen it certainly applies to him.

"Yes Madrick, it will end soon, for they have offended the last person willing to pay their tier for them, he sold them out legitimately after being badly treated. Who will Harle go to now, when The Woofer (now known as Dorien) is three months behind on tier? Their Tethys base was also subject to some urban renewal lately. Eventually they'll be restricted to their quarter sim in Emit Time, the only question is whether they'll still have the 'other' AN as neighbors....."

Considering the amount of money I just donated, I seriously doubt that Dorien is behind on tier. Tell me Intlibber, when did you go from being a money hungry land "baron" to being the right hand gimp of a military group who are basically lodgers?

I would also like to know what evidence you have towards this whole "LOL AN HAS NO MUNEYS" comment, since some of the more financially secure members not only contribute to Dorien, but run their own sims aswell.

Whilst I don't agree with the land being sold off and then lied about, the furry death camp, or the fact that this was done because the Merczateers really suck hard at SL combat... I do have to say that the /b/tards did get a few lulz. They're not the guilty party in this.

/b/ was given this parcel in Emit Time by Intlibber, who in turn obtained it from Uildiar Kuhn knowing full well that it was part of an Alliance Navy parcel that he had contributed to. The guilty party isn't even Uildiar as much, since he was just utilizing his land. Intlibber, aswell as those who played yes men with him (Aryte Vesperia, Lurdan Huszar, Ethan Schuman...) seem to think that two wrongs make a right. Jonathan Arna and I were the only two responsible for taking the "Kremlin" building in Badnarik (Merczateer sim) during a prolonged operation, and we acted alone, without any approval or intervention from any AN personnel aside from ourselves.

I purchased the Kremlin... as the /b/tards would put it, for the lulz, and I got lulz out of it.

"Obvious you haven't been around for very long."

No, I have not, but I am aware of the fact that certain groups HAVE put up swastikas all over the grid.

I am also aware that those actions spawned the land management tools of today, effectively retarding the griefer threat significantly.

I am also aware that banning everyone in a griefer group and dissolving the group will do absolutely zero because they will be back in no time with Alts and a different group.

So, in this particular instance their bad taste antics were confined to one area, an area you could leave if you wanted to.

Honestly, I thought it was hysterical. Yes, bad taste, but so what? There's a blurred line between Cris Rock and Michael Richards and it mainly has to do with the delivery, or the audience.

Who exactly would be offended by this? Who is threatened by this? Jews? Furries? (discounting the fact that there is no such thing as Anthromorphic cats and dogs and hence its impossible to commit genocide against them).

So, these guys get suspended, yet I guarantee I could find genuinely harmful, deviant, and unhealthy (not satirical) SL pursuits that get a pass from the Lindens (stuff like simulated rape, slavery, et al.)

Seriously people, grow some thicker skin.

"Griefers," well done. Got a good laugh on an otherwise boring Monday morning. Thank you.

Also, I eat dog. *smile*

PS. Remember the song,

"It's springtime for Hitler
in Germany.
Winter
for Poland
and France."

from "The Producers?"

The Furry Death Camp is along the same lines. It's harmless and it's hysterical.

I think I'll take an honor to repeat something that once said here for bloody stakes....

"When are you children going to grow up? Or, go back to the teen grid where you all belong."

As I posted before: Second Life Herald becomes worse and worse. Why are you posting such a crap? Some kids (yeah, kids) are playing war. Uuuuh... *war*! Well, great, let them play and don't waste your and our time with that.

This site has been really great, but times are changing. bye. I won't come back.

Disappointed
James

I think SL Herald should stop reporting on anything to do with Alliance Navy or The Merczateers, since they never get their facts all straight and everytime they write a story it only causes more tension between the groups themselves and people around us. Also the despicable fact that actions of the few affect people's oppinions on the many. I think I'm more ashamed with SL Community rather than Herald. People who are not involved have no clue what has been going on and frankly they can comment but they certainly can't tell us how to execute our actions nor can they argue with the sole facts we lay out on the table. We have people grief us because they saw a biased article about us on the herald, and they believe they are a "Messengers of The Lindens" sworn to "save" SL from apparent "Greifers" who keep within their own walls or within enemy walls in secluded, enclosed environments away from the public. All these events that have been published on this website have made people aware of our presence, but quite frankly we've been around for quite a while and big events always have happened. But noone knew or cared. Why must people care if we keep to ourselves? I myself am a furry, I was unaware of the /b/ tards presence and to be bitterly honest I was disturbed when I eventually did go to the camp. Had I known what they had been up to I would not have condoned it. I would like to clear up the fact that it was not an act of our group but merely some bored individuals deciding to act like children. I was aware of the purchase of the land and found that funny as it was a completely legal action meant to inflict damage to the enemy on mental and physical levels. But like I said you may not see anymore articles after a while as this will be ending soon..

-Merczateer High Command
General Armii
Madrick Burfield.

What I find so funny is that people get their nuts in a twist about nazi imagery yet communist imagery is A-OK. Considering the actions of the communists in the former USSR, China, and elsewhere make the Nazis pale in comparison. Memories of total war perhaps? Nazi-Chic is quite popular in asia, oddly enough.

So, on a more related note - Looks like I picked a hell of a week to go on vacation.

I really think SLH and the war groups in SL could mutually benefit from some old timey WWII-style war reporting rather than stuff like this. All this does is bait people and make a bad social situation worse between the groups. I don't like the AN much but they still deserve a fair shake. The facts will speak for themselves...or maybe that's why there's always such spin and otherwise one-sidedness in these war "articles".

Also, it would be nice if there was actually more war and less of the AOL chatroom pretend hacker antics. I mean, you guys have private sims for christ sake! All you do is patrol your isolated land and kill whoever shows up. What's the point? At least when everyone was located on the main grid you could get a run for your money!

The whole SL combat scene would actually be pretty cool if you guys got over yourselves and each other, came up with some rules and/or combat system that would even the odds and force people to use actual tactics and strategy instead of phantom super artillery and other corny items and start acting like military institutions and show some discipline and respect for your opponents.

Otherwise you'll always be nothing more than griefer gangs with pretty costumes.

"What I find so funny is that people get their nuts in a twist about nazi imagery yet communist imagery is A-OK."

That's because the Nazis made a whole group of people famous, protected and powerful through their actions. The fact that my previous sentence will probably be called "anti-semetic" is proof even though it's just a historical observation.

The Communists only killed their own people so this never happened.

Everyone that found the Furry Concentration Camp offensive should watch Mel Brooks' "To Be or Not To Be" and re-evaluate the situation.

"Heil Hitler!" "Heil Myself."

Mel Brooks is funny. /b/tards aren't.
Mel Brooks pokes fun at himself and his own as much as other. /b/tards don't.
Mel Brooks made a living at being funny. /b/tards make zilch with their "humor".
Mel Brooks makes clever use of visual gags. All /b/tards can do is crash sims and be ugly to some groups.
Mel Brooks amuses large numbers of people. /b/tards only entertain themselves.

Mel Brooks is to /b/tards what fish are to bicycles.

shockwave yareach:
-Some people would say that /b/ is funnier than Mel Brooks.
-This is bull, /b/-tards constantly berate and poke at each other. Everyone takes it in stride, those who don't are laughed at.
-Being funny is not always about making money.
-You're confusing /b/ and PN. Not all PN are /b/-tards, not all /b/-tards are PN. And again, some people may find /b/ memes "clever use of visuals". The fact that you don't is moot.
-/b/ amuses more people than Mel Brooks on average, because the average /b/-tard population is very high.

all im going to say, is i am a member of the Alliance Navy, and am proud of our group. also, as a FORMER griefer, i find The Mercz actions to be desperate and childish. buying the land, fine, thats a legitimate way of GRIEFING, but, i was told that the mercz are members of the SLSALT pact about not allowing certain actions in sl combat, oh wait, thats only when you guys feel threatened, if it suits you, you claim your in SLSALT, if it doesnt, you say you arent.
oh, and as a side note, SLH, im appalled at your unprofessional reporting, report both sides of teh story, not just an interview with one of the leaders of the mercz, and taking his word as law.
-Matt Tempel
Alliance Navy Marine

"Mel Brooks amuses large numbers of people. /b/tards only entertain themselves."

Who said we were TRYING to entertain you?

Quite a few people were suspended that had nothing to do with placing nazi hate propoganda or anything like that. all someone did was place a prim that said "furries ruin everything", and they were suspended for 7 days :(

There is an ocean of difference between letting something stand and agreeing with it. I don't harbor anti-furry sentiments, many of my friends (including Aryte Vesperia) are furries. However, something I do believe in is the freedom of expression, and while I might not agree with what the /b/tards had to say, I do agree with the fact that they had a right to say it. They were given land to voice their opinions on, and they did so. You can agree with it, disagree with it, or find it distasteful, but in my opinion, the majority of what I saw didn't cross the line (that which did was deleted or returned). Since it's our land, which we lawfully purchased the lease to (sorry Alliance Navy, but just because someone says you can use something for a bit doesn't make it yours), we can do what we want on it, so long as we remain within Terms of Service, and we chose to let the /b/tards use it as a sandbox. It's as simple as that.

Agree, disagree, find it distasteful, or whatever. You have your right to have an opinion, whatever it may be. Just know that most of us really couldn't care less what it is.

Matt Tempel, to clarify. The SLSALT was thrown out the window many months ago in agreement to start up a new treaty, or treaties..rather. Though all military factions signed it, it's not even in use, therefore is null and void. Your petty argument that you're breaking rules of a treaty that isn't even active is rather pointless, and hilarious, only showing how truely intelligent you really are.

THIS THREAD SMELLS OF FAGGOTRY

(I'm assuming this new treaty is STABLE, Caine)

"...all military factions signed it, it's not even in use, therefore is null and void."

Not in use by who? The Merczateers? I think you'll find that if you ever actually stopped and engaged in a friendly bit of fair combat (having said that, I don't recall the Merczateers having visited Dorien for quite some time, apart from one assault which was promptly squashed) STABLE is still very prevalent. So, you've just admitted that you ignore it? Your move.

A treaty is signed so that it is constantly active. I'm not sure where you got the idea from, but you can't just turn off when you don't feel like playing by the rules.

Faggots D:

Ethan:

I can agree with that. Me, I don't give a hoot what the PNs and /b/whatevers have in their places. Doesn't affect me a bit, even if I visited there. We should all have the freedom of expression in our own spaces.

Now, when these folks can learn to leave the furry sims alone and let THEM have THEIR "difference of opinion" in THEIR "own space", then and only then will I rush to their defense. Since the PN and /b/tards enjoy trashing other groups and crashing sims so much, I'll not shed a single tear that they finally pissed off the Lindens and got their long-time-coming asskicking.

The PN weren't the ones making this shit by any means, shockwave, we're smarter than that. It's the other /b/tards who take SL as srs bsns. We're long past treating it that way, so we strike from the shadows, not make giant expansive parody complexes.

Economic Mip, you need to be less offended by 70 year old incidents , and take u the cause of Darfur. Pissing and moaning about the Nazis, just to maintain your "Progressive cred" helps nothing and makes you incredibly easy to manipulate. frankly I found the idea of the Furry deathcamp hilarious, though old as it was done online a decade ago in a text based MUCK all ready.

IF anyone needs good quality Sculpted prim GI and German Helmets I will have some ready shortly, for about 200L.

nice advertising karl lol...

also, to those who are saying that the Merczateers doesn't follow SLSALT, I seriously believe that you have not even read the SLSALT. It is VERY open-ended, which is one of the reasons it was dropped. Also, AN loves to say that Merczateers doesn't follow SLSALT, when they in fact have thrown it out the window, and only bring it up when it suits them.

Also, I am a furry, and while I was slightly offended when I heard of this, it is no big deal, because NONE OF IT IS REAL!!!!
I will start worrying when people coming knocking on my door to take me away...


That's good fuck you to the Alliance Navy *high five*

So why does this bring so much controversy? I don't understand. Furries are HIV positive animals...just 'cause they are overcooked at a summer camp shouldn't make this a humanity issue, especially since they aren't human.

Furries cause lag! Furries spread retroviruses! Furries are the scourge to Second Life. Burn 'em all yee-haw!

BTW - The Alliance Navy needs to stop legally flagging everything, it's as redundant and pointless as the nation's terror level according to Homeland Security...

In light of all the long comments, I'm just putting "Heh" to sum it up.


Heh.

And in other news.

The Alliance Navy and the Secondlife Sky Navy have ended thier long lasting alliance.

All this happened after Harlequin Salome, a AN Admiral, refused to share his cookies with SLSN High Command.

Shame on you Harlequin... Shame on you!

Ohh dear....
poor AN!
Firstly: congratulations to Penny Cao and SLSN High command for seeing sense, AN were going to frame you rof attacking them anyway.
secondly: all of raideurs SLSN gear has now been de activated :-(. if SLSN needs any engineers to make them new gear or give them current stuff IM me, you have AM's full support.
Thirdly: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
Harlequin you SUCK. AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHH.
I would like to congratulate whoever has banned AM from dorien. I know you are all sore losers.

INTERNET: SERIOUS BUSINESS

A shame to see how fun SL combat between two of the longest-standing factions has devolved in my absence.

See you all real soon.

See, what I find interesting about all this is that if it was any group other than the Alliance Navy who'd had their land yanked out from under them (much less a group that was an *enemy* of the AN), the AN command staff would be laughing hysterically, and making snide comments about how "that's what you get when you try to beat the system".

How the hell did /b/ and PN get ahold of my Gallows??

I'd like to post a salient comment I found while cruising SL Herald stories about the war between the Mercz and AN, as a bit of light reading.

The following is a comment from the article http://www.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2007/04/war.html , cut from the tail end of a litany against the AN posted by one mister Ethan Schuman.

All I will say is that Merczateers will not stoop to the levels you do in battle, now or ever, and we will never attempt to ruin someone's day just to prove a point.

Posted by: Ethan Schuman | April 10, 2007 at 03:19 PM

It's interesting, how quickly one's morals may dissapear when the oppertunity to ruin someone's day just to prove a point arrises.

ive been general, 1st in command of the secondlife mercenaries.
AN, alliance navy are, and have been our enemy for just over 2 years now.

the reason of this was the an decided to attack our base for us becomming an upcomming army, made for the protection, and freedom of other secondlifers.

We had a base, in land also used for a club, but it wasnt intended for a military fortress, it was a centre, a recruitment centre.
after a random tip-off, the AN attacked us, the manager of the club was confused, just as us.
he was a good friend of mine, and payed for my armys weapons and supply's, after the attack he lost all the members in his club after the shoot out, after we managed to stable the situation, and my team of 6 men managed to stand that air raids, mortars, and standard weapon fire being hearled at us, they went.
the next day we was ejected off the land, and left to patroll sandboxes since.

we still patroll sandboxes, carrying weapons trying to act as close to our training as possible, knowing we cant actually fire, we are thrown away like a piece of dirt.

yes i have alot fo stories on the AN, good and bad, but all i think is... the AN want publicity, not respect.

yes they are well trained, but they are rude and frustrating...

on the 1st of june, SLM will be hosting a major recruitment operation to rebuild the army to its feet.
we can handle the building, we just need land, if anyone is interested or wiling to help, or has any questions, please email me at...

I_R_P_T@yahoo.co.uk

Thankyou.

this article is nearly a year old you idiot

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